the israelites

has anyone checked out the comments on my old mormon vs. israelites entry? maybe clem can really become one after all. so far we have:


c coleman said...
mind-blowing. where do I sign up to be a black israelite?

11/6/07 5:05 PM

jay said...
the winner, once the series is finished, should have to debate the Iron Sheik from wwf.

11/7/07 4:45 AM

pastor beavers said...
Very nice, I am a Israelite as well, would be interesting to hear your viewpoint on eternal life, immortality as this is what I have a hard time coming to an agreement with with most Israelites,as there are many factions. Check my website at www.siciaypsilanti.org
Pastor Beavers

11/21/07 4:22 AM

israeliteindeed said...
if you want to find out more about hebrew israelites check out www.isupk.org
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2ar54t

12/18/07 7:23 PM

anonymous said...
To the first comment I firstly would like to say that you are either born a hebrew israelite or are let into the covenant through Yahushuah ha mashiac, by accepting that he is the son of Yah and that no man can be saved but by him.
This Hebrew israelite said many truths, you should not add or take away from the scriptures and so do away with the mormon bible. To find out more:

http://childofyah.wordpress.com/

1/13/08 6:25 AM



(Entire City of New York Vs. Black Hebrew Israelites)

I've been sort of obsessed with all kinds of religious zealotry lately and it's sometimes complicit, sometimes antagonistic assymetrical twin, global capitalism, and wishing I could slink off to some place that was like John Lennon's "Imagine," a nice atheistic, warm fuzzy utopia far from immanent nuclear holocaust and ecological crisis, and let rabid humanity duke it out while i sipped ice cold beverages on a raft, but then again i'm still here on planet earth. The video above is from a youtube group called GreatMillstone. These guys have over 800 ten minute videos on Youtube. I think to really get the full effect, one should watch a few other of these at random. By turns depressing, offensive, funny, and every once in a while even somehow oddly sympathetic, until they ruin it by doing something like calling some woman a slut becasue she's wearing pants or some other dumb shit. At their best, they put some of America's dirty laundry that still hasn't been properly dealt with (is there ever going to be justice for things like cointelpro and covert involvement in south america in the 80's, an end to this current war, will the tide of increasing civillian surveillance ever ebb, etc.) in people's faces and allow us to see the mixed reactions of a random sampling of passerbys. At worst they just stand and call people faggots and indulge in half-baked conspiracy. So is your enemy's enemy your friend? Not quite, but they kind of remind me of Fear, G.G. Allin, Charlie Manson, and the Italian Futurists as performers who's views you really can't support, but yet are drawn to because they create situations that demand audience participation and are harder to pin down the more you watch them. Maybe I just miss Philly and New York's public spaces where you can have unexpected encounters with other human beings instead of being isolated in a car all the time, and still miss the heckling/back and forth audience particiaption aspect of old hardcore shows. Theyse guys attack nearly everyone you can possibly think of, including other Black Hebrew Israelites who differ slightly from them in some minor clothing choice, and yet at other times are affable enough to random passerbys like the beligerent old Ukranian woman who they pause to consider may in fact be one of the "true" Israelites like them and seem to appreciate. One of the funniest recurring things is how the main guy will ask one of his associates to begin reading the bible, then immediately cut him off to launch a new diatribe. This is mad War Machine vs. the State from a Thousand Plateaus in all its ambivalnet repulsion/attraction, and less controlled and phonily rehearsed than a daytime trash TV show shouting match to which, true, it is a dangeroulsy similar guilty pleasure.